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繼續做我的筆記:

中間說 Love 的父母,我不做筆記了,因為比較容易記得與理解 by the first time reading it.

@time mark 51:00

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(Love) "He is by nature neither mortal nor immortal, but alive and flourishing at one moment when he is in plenty, and dead at another moment, and agin alive by reason of his farther's nature. But that which is alway flowing in is always flowing out, and so he is never in want and never in wealth; and, further, he is in a mean between ignorance and knowledge. The truth of the matter is this: no god is a philosopher or seeker after wisdom, for he is wise already; nor does any man who is wise seek after wisdom. Neither do the ignorance seek after wisdom. For herein is the evil of ignorance, that he who is neither good nor wise is nevertheless satisfied with himself: he has no desire for that of which he feels no want. " "But who then, Diotima," I said, "are the lovers of wisdom, if they are neither the wise nor the foolish?"

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繼續做我的筆記:


@time mark 54:03

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she replied; "they are those who are in a mean between the two; Love is one of them. For wisdom is a most beautiful thing, and love is of the beautiful; and therefore Love is also a philosopher or lover of wisdom, and being a lover of wisdom is in a mean between the wise and the ignorant. And of this too his birth is the cause; for his farther is wealthy and wise, and his mother poor and foolish. Such, my dear Socrates, is the nature of the spirit Love."

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@time mark 54:16

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  • "The error in your conception of him was very natural, and as I imagine from what you say, has arisen out of a confusion of love and the beloved, which made you think that love was all beautiful. For the beloved is truly beautiful, and delicate, and perfect, and blessed; but the principle of love is of another nature, and is such as I have described."
  • "When a man loves the beautiful, what does he desire?" I answered her, "That the beautiful may be his." "Still," she said, "the answer suggests a further question: What is given by the possession of beauty?" "To what you have asked," I replied, "I have no answer ready."

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@time mark 55:40

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"Then," she said, "let me put the word 「good」in the place of the beautiful, and repeat the question once more: If he who loves loves the good, what is it then that he loves?"

"The possession of the good," I said.

"And what does he gain who possesses the good?"

"Happiness," I replied; "there is less difficulty in answering that question."

"Yes," she said, "the happy are made happy by the acquisition good things. Nor is there any need to ask why a man desires happiness; the answer is already final."

"You are right." I said. "And is this wish and this desire common to all? and do all men always desire their own good, or only some men? --- what say you?"

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@time mark 1:14:46

帕拉圖 哲學中的四個主要部份

  • The world of ideas
  • The immortality of the soul
  • The application of reminiscence
  • The illumination of the knowledge
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繼續做我的筆記:


@time mark 1:22::21

  1. 感官知識分成兩項:appearance and objects
  2. reason 理智 高於 理解 understanding
  3. reason 追求 pure 理念,可以透過辯證法達到,一旦達到,結果是 categorical 「定言式的」


@time mark 1:26:47

@time mark 1:54:40 - 1:55:01

觀後感:一個 "Dominate" 需要知道什麼是ta 的利益

回應樓主的 主題:

我感謝神!祂 安排

我現任先生

在我兩建立的夫妻關係中

當我的 Dominate 這角色。

他是

在我遇到過的所有說愛我的人當中

最知道甚麼是 他的利益

而且 我的 利益 也在他的心思以內。


不過,若是神的緣故,我也會拋開他。

就是說 假如 他要我的 與 神要我的 有抵觸

我決定選擇放棄他 繼續跟從我的神。


“God is love, and whoever abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him. By this is love perfected with us, so that we may have confidence for the day of judgment, because as he is so also are we in this world. There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love. We love because he first loved us. ” ~ 1 John 4:16b - 19 ( Bible: English Standard Version)

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CH07. 柏拉圖的《理想國》 / 苑舉正老師 - YouTube


这个台大的老师讲得特别好,推荐


盛世美颜 发表于 2022-01-28 01:49

哇 居然看到推荐苑教授

他是我最爱的台湾教授

没有之一

真的是学贯中西

讲东西深入浅出

风趣幽默

更是现在台湾岛上

难得敢表态认同自己是中国人的大统派

他的父亲是当年留亡到澎湖的

山东联合中学的教导主任

澎湖七一三事件亲历者

苑教授在B站和油管都有自己的频道

在B站还录有一套付费的哲学课程

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哇 居然看到推荐苑教授

他是我最爱的台湾教授

没有之一

真的是学贯中西

讲东西深入浅出

风趣幽默

更是现在台湾岛上

难得敢表态认同自己是中国人的大统派

他的父亲是当年留亡到澎湖的

山东联合中学的教导主任

澎湖七一三事件亲历者

苑教授在B站和油管都有自己的频道

在B站还录有一套付费的哲学课程


无名ID 发表于 2022-02-03 23:40

太好了,我是刚刚发现的,好喜欢他的讲课方式,以后多交流啊!我还想继续看下去,有好多好多呢,哲学的话题真是一个大海啊

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太好了,我是刚刚发现的,好喜欢他的讲课方式,以后多交流啊!我还想继续看下去,有好多好多呢,哲学的话题真是一个大海啊


盛世美颜 发表于 2022-02-04 00:34

苑教授是鲁汶大学的哲学博士

是台大最受欢迎的教授之一

油管上除了他的公开课

还有一些演讲和上媒体的节目

还有他去年开的频道:

《苑举正的正举苑》

他还写过《求善》和《求真》两本哲学普及书

我其实也不是对哲学有特别的喜好

只是兴趣比较杂

平常一边做事一边听油管

非常喜欢他的幽默风趣

万事万物都能灵活运用哲学来解释

而且善于把很多东西

一下就总结出3个重点

非常之有意思

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