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COACH KENNEDY 因为在球场休息时间独自祷告被学区开除,你觉得这很公平?

还以为大家经过JOHNNY DEPP V. AMBER HEARD这一役能稍微了解一下左派标题党的战斗力,没想到还是有人不明所以,被媒体牵着鼻子走。


高院对 JOSEPH A. KENNEDY V. BREMERTON SCHOOL DISTRICT 判决书是这么写的,大家自行判断吧


Joseph Kennedy lost his job as a high school football coach because he knelt at midfield after games to offer a quiet prayer of thanks. Mr. Kennedy prayed during a period when school employees were free to speak with a friend, call for a reservation at a restaurant, check email, or attend to other personal matters. He offered his prayers quietly while his students were otherwise occupied. Still, the Bremerton School District disciplined him anyway. 


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神棍当众祷告跟某些同性恋穿奇装异服逛街一样,精神上有些许毛病

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我觉得过分了

我同事很多穆斯林 到点了小毯子一铺

祈祷是对身心灵好的事情 为什么不让

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Colin Kaepernick

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Colin Kaepernick


ChristinaW 发表于 2022-06-27 16:24

yup


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还以为大家经过JOHNNY DEPP V. AMBER HEARD这一役能稍微了解一下左派标题党的战斗力,没想到还是有人不明所以,被媒体牵着鼻子走。


高院对 JOSEPH A. KENNEDY V. BREMERTON SCHOOL DISTRICT 判决书是这么写的,大家自行判断吧


Joseph Kennedy lost his job as a high school football coach because he knelt at midfield after games to offer a quiet prayer of thanks. Mr. Kennedy prayed during a period when school employees were free to speak with a friend, call for a reservation at a restaurant, check email, or attend to other personal matters. He offered his prayers quietly while his students were otherwise occupied. Still, the Bremerton School District disciplined him anyway. 


全文75页,链接如下


chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21-418_i425.pdf


babyG 发表于 2022-06-27 16:16

公平不公平,要看你怎么看想关事实。您自个儿给的法庭文件,可以自个儿去看看dissenting opinion,里面说的很清楚:

“To the degree the Court portrays petitioner Joseph Kennedy’s prayers as private and quiet, it misconstrues the facts. The record reveals that Kennedy had a longstanding practice of conducting demonstrative prayers on the 50- yard line of the football field. Kennedy consistently invited others to join his prayers and for years led student athletes in prayer at the same time and location. The Court ignores this history. ”


也就是说,小肯不是因为这一次孤立事件被开除的,而是长期的,进行"demonstrative prayers",才导致学区这个决定。


当然您可以认为就算这样也不该开除他,但是,还是把事实摆清楚,不要把像您自个儿说的那样,用标题党的方式误导别人哦。。。


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主要是公立学校,尊重信仰的话老师能传播无神论吗…还是说只能传播religion?学校不允许是基于seperation of state and church,这样判决以后老师上课前是不是都可以先带领classroom祷告了?
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主要是公立学校,尊重信仰的话老师能传播无神论吗…还是说只能传播religion?学校不允许是基于seperation of state and church,这样判决以后老师上课前是不是都可以先带领classroom祷告了?
wielkacytryna 发表于 2022-06-27 16:28

我问你 你觉得无神论是不是一个宗教信仰

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球场休息时间独自祷告?你肯定?


不是什么左媒,是右派媒体花街报上的照片(oped还有为教练辩护的,但起码不会睁眼说瞎话)


https://www.wsj.com/articles/supreme-court-says-high-school-football-coach-can-pray-at-50-yard-line-11656339266


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因为学校是public school,你作为员工自己一个人没问题,但即使是private company你老板在meeting结束的时候在那里公开这样做还没问题吗?你作为一个信仰不一致的人不会be offended吗?

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